Apparatus for measuring the thickness of foils



Feb. 6, 1940. URMENYI 1 2,139,092

APPARATUS FOR MEASURING THE THICKNESS 0F FOILS Filed Aug. 17, 1936. 2Sheets-Sheet 1 9' a i bu Z/rmen z Feb. 6,-1940. URMENYI 2,189,092

- APPARATUS FOR MEASURING THE THICKNESS 0F FOILS Filed Aug. 17, 19:56 2Sheets-Sheet 2 .Zaaz'rlaus ZJr/WeZy Patented Feb. 6, 1940 v PATENTOFFICE ArrA'aArUs .Foa MEASURINGTHE rmoxmass or FOILS liadislaus Urmnyi,Bern, Switserland Application August 17, 1936. Serial No. stream InSwitzerland June 28, 1935, I

6 foil will be brought between two coils, of which the primary onecarries alternating current, whereby the voltage induced in thesecondary coil will be aflectedby the eddy currents which are excited inthe foil which is pushed in. This 19 influenceis dependent upon thespecific electrical conductlvity, upon the magnetic permeability andupon the thickness of the foil to be measured. Should foils of variousthicknesses 'but of the same material be introduced between both coils,

then the influence of the secondary voltage is dependent only upon thethickness-of the foil.

v The secondary voltage is a measure for the thickness of the foil. Thismethod is too little sensitive especially for an extensive range ofmeasurement, and the measurement will be very strongly influenced byvariations in the frequency and amplitude of voltage of the alternatingcurrent flowingthrough the primary coil.

There are also methods known, by which two pairs of coils are used insuch a manner, that the both primary coils are carrying alternatingcurrent, the foil to be measured is brought between the coils of the onepair of coils, whereby the secondary voltage willbe affected, the twosecondary voltages will be each separately rectifled and the so obtaineddirect voltages will be compared; These methods have the fault, that thecalibration is dependent of the characteristics of the tubes-used andbecause the characteristics of the tubes in time changes and alsobecause thetubes must be exchanged in time, such an apparatus can not becalibrated. Another fault of these methods is, that the measured voltageis different with different thicknesses of foils, i. e., the whole rangeof measuring is spread over the characteristic of one tube, whereby theratio of the range to the sensitivity is limited. For a favourablesensitivity one must choose a small range and for a greater range thesensitivity is reduced. I

V The present invention is free of all these faults and consists inthat. the voltage measured or compared is kept constant over the wholerange of measuring, i. e., the ,tubes are always working at the samepoint of the characteristics, whereby a large range and a high degree ofsensitivity may be obtained simultaneously and the measurement isindependent of the characteristics and therefore also of the changes ofthe characteristics of the tubes and consequently the apparatus .5.comma. (onus-183M may be calibrated absolutely. Two pairs of coils areused of which the primary coils are carrying alternating current, thefoil to be measured will be brought between one pair of coils, and thecoils are connected, and by means of a regulating .5 member described inthe examples, coupled in such a manner that both the voltages of thesecondary coils connected in series, are approximately opposite inphaseand equal in amplitude or produce a constant difference ofamplitude .10 and therefore the secondary voltage affected by the foilto be measured is not measured or compared, but the difference of bothof the secondary voltageswhich difference may have also the value ofzero-kept constant in the said manner "15 will be measured or comparedwith a constant comparison voltage.

The said regulating member is connected to 'a scalefwhich may becalibrated in foil thickness. m

The apparatus may be used chiefly for the 7 following purposes:

1. Measuring the thickness 01 metal foil and sheet metal. If the foil isplaced in the apparatus, the scale is then turned until the hand of theindicator instrument takes a quite definite position, and afterwardsthethickness of the foil may be read on the scale.

2. Observation" of deviation from previously determined thickness.Because the foil to be 30 measured does not touch any part of theapparatus, it is possible to measure or observe the thickness of movingfoil. This is important, if

in the rolling mill a foil with previously fixed thickness is to bemanufactured and this thick 35 ness is to be kept constant during themanu facture. For this purpose the calibrated scale is adjusted to therequiredthickness, the foil is led during the manufacture from the millthrough the apparatus and the deviations from o the required thicknessmay be read on the indicator instrument. 7 When deviation appears, therolling mill may be adjusted and the fault corrected immediately. i I

Several embodiments of the invention are il- 45 lustrated by way ofexample in the accompanying drawings, in which:

Fig. 1 is a simple working example of the invention.

Fig. 2 shows a variation thereof. 50

Fig. 3 is a working example, in which the cathodes of both tubesconnected to a bridge receive alternating voltages.

Fig. 4 isa working exampleof .the invention, in which a bridgeconnection is used. 55

Fig. 5 is an example of a circuit usedfor compensating the influence oftemperature.

a Fig. 6 is another example of a circuit for compensating the influenceof temperature.

6 Fig. 7 is an elevational view of apparatus for adjusting the phaseangle.

Fig. 8 is a sectional view of the apparatus taken on the line VIIIVlIIof Fig. 7. r

Fig. 9 is a sectional view of one type of the 10 plate showing theunequal thickness thereof.

Fig. 10 is a sectional view of another form of the plate having unequalthickness portions.

Similar reference characters havebeen utilized to denote like parts inall of the figures.

In Figure 1, 0 is an oscillator feeding the coils P1, P2, which areconnected in parallel, but-may also be connected in series. This holdstrue also of the working examples according to Figures 2, 3 and 4. Thecircuit of the oscillator is unimportant, any circuit may be used. Thecircuit of the oscillator is therefore not shown in the drawings. Thealternating voltage supplied from the oscillator may be amplified, ifneeded. Both secondary coils S'1'and S: are connected in series andpoled in such a manner, that between both a also at the points A and B.Should a piece ofmetal plate M be gradually shifted'in between bothcoils S1 and P1, or the piece of metal plate be fixed on to an axle in amovable manner and gradually turned in between the coils, then at a verydefinite position of the metal plate the volt- ,40 age induced in coilS1 will be reduced to the same amplitude as the voltage in S2. Theposition of the plate M is readable on a scale SC. .Regarding theamplitude-of the voltage in S1 it is immaterial whether a thick piece ofmetal plate is pushed in only a little between the coils or ,a thin onea bit further in, but not so as regards the phase. The phase is alsodependent, upon whether the metal plate is brought sym-.

metrically between both coils or a bit nearer to P1 or nearer to S1.There is for each metal plate thickness quite a definite positionbetween.

the coils P1 and S1 at which the voltage induced in S1 corresponds inamplitude as well as in phase with the voltage which is induced in S:after bringing in the foil to be measured between the coils IE2 and S2.The phase of the voltage in S1 will also alter when the coils P1 and S1are brought nearer to one another and simultaneously the metal plate ispushed in deeper between the coils or vice-versa. A suitably cutoutpiece of metal plate (possibly which is finally 'made unequally thick atvarious places and is possibly also bent) can be so moved on acorrespondingly. adapted line or so turned on an 55 axle, that everyfoil thickness which is passed between the coils Pz and S2 correspondsto a position of the metal plate at which the voltage in S1 correspondsin amplitude and phase to that in S1, so that no alternating voltageexists between A and B. With the motion of the metal plate can also becombined a movement of both coils P1 and S1 towards one another. Shouldthe.

position of the metal plate be shown on a scale, then this scale can becalibrated for the thickness of the foil.

An arrangement for adjusting the position of the metal plate having anunequal thickness is shown in Figs. 7 and 8 wherein the coils S1 and S:are mounted within cup-shaped screening members CA1 and CA1. Thesescreening mem- 6 bers are mounted on a frame FR and the metal plate Mhaving unequal thicknesses as shown in Fig. 9 or 10 is moved between thecoils by means of a shaft SP suitably connected to the metal plate. Thescale SC may also be ar- 10 ranged on the knob for turning the shaft SP.To observe, whether between the points A and B an alternating voltageexists or not,'a tube V connected as a grid leak detector in the figure,is provided, the anode current of which will be 15 measured by theinstrument J. Instead of a grid leak detector any other rectifierconnection may be used, e. g., biased detector, diode connection etc.,which may also be employed in all other examples. The alternatingvoltage between A and B may be amplified, by one or more stages andafter amplification led to the rectifier.

By this method the milliamperemeter J v in the anode circuit of thegridleak detector shows a maximum deflection, when-the foil has athickness corresponding to that at which the scale is regulated. If thefoil is thicker or thinner then the deflection is slighter. Therefore,it can not yet be decided only from-reading the instrument alone,whether a foil is thicker or thinner than 30 whatthe scale shows, butmuch more-must one look for the position of the maximum deflection byturning the scale to and fro.

The coupling between the coils can be made a little unsymmetrical'fromthe very outset, so that there results an alternating voltage betweenthe points A and B. By inserting the foil to be measured between thecoils P: and S1 this alternating voltage will be changed. Now the metalplate will be shifted in or turned so far between the 40. I

coils P1 and S1, until the original voltage again appears at the pointsA and B. By this method the instrument shows an average deflection ifthe scale points out the correct thickness of the foil. Should the foilbe thicker then the pointer will, 45 for instance, deflect more thanbefore, should it be thinner then the pointer will deflect less. Fromthe position of the instrument it can immediately be told whether thefoil is as thick as, thicker than or thinner than the thickness at whichthe scale is adiusted. This-is importaTnt if the foil-thickness is to becontrolled in rolling mills while the mills revolving on the runningband and deviations from the fixed thickness are to be corrected. Withthis method it is only 5 necessary to take care'that at any foilthickness measured the same voltage e always appears between the pointsA and B. This will be again attained through suitable choice of thecoupling between the metal plate M and the coils P1-S1 and therefore theposition of the metal plate may be calibrated for the thickness of thefoils. If now another primary voltage is chosen, then the voltagebetween the points A and B will change in the same ratio and takes thevalue e. If 65 measurement the amplitude and the character- 7 istics ofthe tubesfdo not change, which is not difonate with the current in P1and P2.

ficult to realise.

The sensitivity may be increased by forming a resonant circuit of S1, S2and a condenser C (as shown in Fig. 2). This circuit is tuned to res- Ifthe voltages across S1 and S: are equal, then the voltage 0, is .zeroand the resonant circuit does not become excited; but as soon as thevoltage e takes a finite value, the resonant circuit becomes excited andthe voltage e builds up to a much larger value. Should the voltage ebecome too large, the resonant circuit may be damped by a resistance notshown. The condenser C and said resistance may also be employed for thesame purpose and function in the examples shown in Figures 3 and 4.

Figure 3 shows a further working example. Here three pairs of coils areused. The three primary coils P1, P2. Pa can be connected againin'parallel or in series. The secondary coils S1 and S: are. connectedagain in series. The secondary coil 53 is earthed in the middle, andboth ends lead to the cathodes of the tubes V1 and V2. The alternatingvoltage, which the cathode of the tube V1 receives, is as high inamplitude as'but exactly opposite in phase to the alternating voltage atthe cathode of the tube V2. Should the alternating voltage between A andB be zero, then the anode currents of both tubes V1 and V: are equallybig and the instrument J carries no "current. This is the case, if thevoltage in S2 influenced by the foil F to be measured and the voltage inS1 influenced by the metal plate M are equal in amplitude and phase.Should a thicker foil be taken, then there arises an alternating voltagebetween A and B, which has, for instance, the same phase as the voltageat the cathode of the tube V1 and the opposite phase to the voltage atthe cathode of the tube V2. Thus the alternating voltage between thegrid and cathode of tube -V1 will become smaller, and that between gridand cathode of the tube V: will become greater than before.Therinstrument J shows a deflection. Should, however, a thinner foil betaken, then there arises an altemating voltage between Azand B, whichhas the same phase. as the voltage at the cathode of the tube V2. Theinstrument then deflects in the opposlte direction.

Also in this example the voltage between A and B can be amplified by anamplifier.

Fig. 4 shows another working example of the I invention. The left partof the circuit, including P1, P2, S1, S2, M'is connected in the samemanner as in Fig. 1. In Fig. 4 the voltage between A and B is amplifiedby means of a tube V1. In the drawings a high frequency pentode is usedas amplifier in the usual manner but any other type of tube may be usedand if only a small sensitivity is required, the amplification may beomitted. The fall of voltage across the resistance R1 supplies the gridbias; R: is a series resistance supplying the screen-grid-voltage; R: isthe anode-load; C1 and Ci are by-p'ass condensers. The tubes V: and V:are connected as grid-leak detectors, they may also be connected asbiased detectors, or any otherform of rectification may be used. Thetubes V2 and V3 with the resistances R4 and R5 are connected in a bridgecircuit, the. instrument J is used as a zero indicator. Cs and Cs areby-pass condensers, Ca and C4 are grid condensers, Re and R1 are gridresistances.

The working of the coils P1, P2, S1, S2 is the same as mm. 1. Thealternating voltage between the points A and B after amplification isled to the grid of the tube V2. The grid of V3 is supplied by theconnection point of the coils S1, S2 with a constant comparison voltage.The change of the voltage across S: belonging to the variation of thethickness of the foil 1s-ex'- 4 pressed in per cent-very small comparedwith the change of the voltage e. Therefore the voltthe grid of V3. Thecalibration is carried out in such a manner that for every foilthicknessmutual position of M, P1, S1 is adjusted to give state of equalitybetween voltage e after amplification, and the comparisonvoltage, fed togrid Vs, so that the instrument J carries no current. Also in thisexample the voltage e is therefore constant for every foil thickness andthe calibration independent of the characteristics of the tubes and onlydependent on the mutual position of M, P1 and S1.

During the rolling of foils the temperature of the foil is fairly high.Should foils of difl'erent temperatures be measured with thesame'device, then the device must be calibrated forvarious temperatures,since the electrical conductivity of the metal changes with increasingtemperature and thus the readings of the instrument will be ail'ected.It can, however, be so arranged that the influence of the effect of thechange of conductivity of the material on the readings can becompensated for. In this case. thesame calibration holds good for everytemperature of the foil. The compensation can, for instance, be attainedby having a thermoelement-or several thermoelements connected in seriesplaced in the vicinsame-or another temperature kept constant.-

Between the point C and D there arises a thermovoltage, which will bedistributed through a potentiometer P and which will be led to one ofthe tubes of the apparatus as supplementary grid bias voltage.- Sincethe percentual sensibility oi the apparatus varies witheverythickness offoil, a varyingly great part of the voltage C-D for each foil thicknessmust be tapped oil on the potentiorneter P. The movement of the contactat thepotentiometer can be mechanically connected with the movement ofthe scale. In the working example according to Fig. 1 a part KD of thepotentiometer P in Fig. 5 would be connected in series with thegrid-resistance of tube.

When applied to the example shown in Fig. 4, the tubes V: and V3 wouldbe connected as biased detectors, 1. e., the grid-resistances not to beled on the cathodes but on to a more negative point of the circuit,whereby thev part KD of the potentiometer P in the Fig. 5 must beconnected in series to the resistance Re. In the example shown in Fig. 3the part KD of the po entiometer P in the Fig. 5 must be connected inbetween the earth and the half of coil S3 belonging to the tube V1. Inthis example the connection of a bridging condenser between the pointsKD is necessary. I

Another solution is to be found by bringing in the vicinity of the foila wire in which current flows and which alters its resistance wlth'thetemperature and which constitutes a part of a potentiometer.- A workingexample of the method is shown in Fig. 6. The resistances R1 and R1 are,e. g., of copper, the resistances R: and R4 and the potentiometer P ofconstantan. The resistance R1 is in the vicinity of the toil and takesits temperature, the remaining resistances are brought for-instanceinside the device and have room-temperature. Should the toil and 'withit the resistance R1 become warmer, the voltage between Q and T becomessmaller, The voltage between Q and (Ms not influenced by'thetemperature; The voltage between Q and w which alters with thetemperature variation of the foil is applied as grid bias to one of thetubes of the device. In all the examples shown points Q and W a foils orsheet metal the combination of a source ofalternating current of twopairs of coils of which the two primary coils are connected to the saidsource of alternating current and are fed with alternating current andthe two secondary coils are connected in series,of the foil or sheetmetal to be measured being brought between the primary and secondarycoil of the one pair of coils whereby the eddy currents created in thefoil alter the amplitude and the phase of the voltage induced in thesecondary coil, of a regulating member adapted to regulate the amplitudeand the phase of the voltage of the secondary coil of s the second pairof coils in such a manner that the voltage in the secondary coil of thesecond pair of coils becomes approximately opposite in phase to thesecondary voltage of. the first pair of coils and the amplitude of thevoltage in the secondary coil of the second pair of coils becomes ashigh as it is necessary to keep constant the sum of the twosecondaryvoltages connected in series which sum may also have the valuezero, and of an electrical bridge comprising two electron tubes each oneworking as a rectifier, the anode circuit of each of the said tubescomprising an anode load resistance, a current meter connected betweenthe two anodes of said tubes, the secondary coils being connected to oneof said tubes adapted to rectify said sum of the secondary voltages, theother one oi. said tubes being connected to said source of alternatingcurrent adapted to obtain and rectify a constant comparison alternatingvoltage, the

2. In a device for measuring the thickness cl foils or sheet metal thecombination of a source of alternating current of two pairs-of coils ofwhich the two primary coils are connected to the said source ofalternating current and are fed with alternating current and the twosecondary coils are connected in series, of the foil or sheet induced inthe secondary coil, of a regulating member adapted to regulate theamplitude and the phase of the voltage of the secondary coil of,

the second pair of coils in such a manner that the voltage in thesecondary coil of the second pair of coils becomes approximatelyopposite in phase to a the secondary voltage of the first pair of coilsand the amplitude of the voltage in the secondary coil of the secondpair or coils becomes as high as it is necessary 'to keep constant thesum of the two secondary voltages connected in series which sum may alsohave the value zero, of an amplifier connected to the secondary coilsadapted to. amplify said sum of the secondary voltages, of an electricalbridge comprising two tubes, both working as rectifiers, theanodecircuit of each of said rectifier tubes comprising an anode loadresistance, a

current meter being connected between the two anodes of said rectifiertubes the amplified sum of said secondary voltages being connected toone of said rectifier tubes, the other one of said rectifier tubes beingconnected to said source of alternating current adapted to obtain andrectify av constant comparison alternating voltage, the posi- 3. In adevice according to claim 1, in which said regulating member consists ofan arrange -ment adapted to push'in apiece of metal plate which isunequally thick at various places between the two coils of said secondpair of coils.

4. In a device according to claim 2, in which said regulating memberconsists of an arrangement adapted to push in a piece of metal platewhich is unequally thick at various places between the two coils of saidsecond pair of coils.

5. In a device according to claim 1, in which the two secondary coilsare completed to a resonant circuit bya tuning condenser connectedbetween the two not common ends of the secondary coils..-'

6. In a device according to claim 2, in which the two secondary coilsare completed to a resonant circuit by a tuning condenser connectedbetween the two not common ends of the secondary coils.

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